I Was Hurt! I Am Fine!

Dear Varalotti Sir,

Again I would like to place my views. No doubt a mother's love towards her good and bad son would be unconditional and equal. But the most important factor is - how that unconditional love is repaid? Will she be pleased with the bad deeds of her son?

The same way Lord loved Hiranyan too. But He was not pleased with his deeds. So, He has to descend for the sake of His Bhaktha and kill Hiranyan. Lord loved Hiranyan but He hated his demonic activities. Ultimately Hiranyan did not please God.

We are born to adore God and please Him with our good deeds. That is the real salvation.

So you feel more blessed when God gives you Darshan. You are indeed blessed as you see so many Gods around you in some form or other.

Hiranyan is not blessed than you. As per puranas, he was serving Lord Narayana at Vaikunta and by the curse he preferred to take demonic births to reach the Lord again. He was already at Lord's service but he lost it. It was his own mistake and the births were his own preference.

We humans are more blessed to learn His leelas and worship Him even at this ever changing Kaliyugam.

Originally Posted by varalotti

Dear Gayu,

One of the nicest feelings a person can have is knowing that he or she is missed by somebody. When you say that you looked for my stories, I had that feeling. thanks a lot. And thanks to your good wishes I have bounced back. And soon will come with one mega serial for you all.

You are the first to raise the point of difference. I appreciate your candour and more than that I am moved by the way you have very softly and decently worded the difference of opinion. It is so nice that for a moment I was tempted to respond, "Oh Gayu, you feel like that. Then let it me. I withdraw my statement."

Do you think that God loved Prahalada and hated Hiranyan? Can the Great God, who is nothing but love, the Karuna Moorthy hate any one? God is Love and Love is God. Is it possible even for a milligram of hatred to exist in Him? No. It cant be.
Let's suppose a mother has two boys. One is good, obedient, home-loving, studious and all. The other loafs around has all the vices and a constant eye-sore to the family. Whom do you think the mother will love more? She'd love them equally. And will demonstrate her love strongly towards the wayward son. The good son will understand his mother's love even without much demonstration. The bad one would realise that only when the mother hugs him and shows her love in easily understandable ways.
Gayu, I am not prescribing the path of Hiranya. It's a poem. The poet is desperate to see God. He knows for sure that he is not good enough as Prahlad to make the God appear for him. He longs to see God and God is not there. He looks around.Sees Hiranya. Evan assuming that we agree Hiranya is not more blessed than Prahlad, is he not blessed than the person who wrote the poem?
The poet who was praying to him never got to see Him. But Hiranya not only got to see him coming out of a pillar in his palace but also had the greatest blessing of being killed by the Lord Himself. Whatever may be his mind, intention and all, the moment he saw Narasinga, the dear azhakiya singar, all his sins would have been burnt to ashes. When the Lord touched him albeit to kill, he would have become the most blessed soul on earth. And when the Lord actually killed him, well it is a billion times better than staying in the Heavenly abode.
More of the arguments in responses to the other two ladies Sriniketan and Vanaja who have raised the same issue.
love,

Dear Indhu,

Well said. I should thank Her for having been hurt. Or else I would not have known fully the love of my GFs and Her love as well.

Your poem is nice – reflecting your present state of mind . Enough , Sridhar – no more gloomy mood . I strongly second kamla’s opinion :’ ” O.K ?

The poem might not be exactly a happy one. But nor is it gloomy. In a way it's an expression of fullness and a declaration of readiness to accept whatever that comes along my way.

But, Indhu, of all the persons, you would know that there is a vast difference between what I am and what people think I am. My constant prayer to Her is to completely eliminate this difference, by raising me up to the level of people's expectations.

God bless you with a balanced & peaceful mind , Sridhar !

thanks a lot,Indhu.
love,

Dear Sowpar,
You have hit the nail on its head by using the correct word - sabbatical. A sabbatical has many objectives and the most important of them is this. A person should know his place better. So long as he is there chained in that place, he could not do that. So he is sent away on sabbatical not to look at another place, but look his own place from afar. That's what I did and that was the one that healed the hurt.

Well after realising that I could be hurt by things like this, I am not at all sure of my maturity or understanding. At times I even feel that at this age, 50 plus, I should start all over again. Let's see.

I am also waiting for that "some day" to know the reason. But right now after writing this post and after seeing the loving replies from you and all other ILites, I have gained the power to forgive myself (for I had my own share of wrongs) and all others whom I mistakenly thought had committed wrongs.

Yes there'd be more cheer in my posts hereafter. Of course we have the serial coming soon.
Thanks once again, Sowpar.
love,

Originally Posted by sowparnika

dear sridhar sir,
glad to see that you are back after your brief sabbatical...
after all the warm, lovely replies here, i hardly have anything else left to say...
i just hope, that with the level of maturity and understanding that you have, that you do not let such things hurt you....
i guess we just have to take it as just one more event in the complex scheme of His, the reasons for which, may, someday, dawn on us...

i am sure He will grant you your prayer and shower you with His love...love and knowledge are the only thing which grow when shared, and i hope you receive many times the generous amounts of these which you share with us here...

as Kamla and Indhu maam have said, looking forward to more cheer in your coming posts... :)

Dear Vanaja,
I love the way you have responded. Politely expressing your views with extraordinary firmness. I bow down to your social and communication skills. A beautiful post like yours tempts me to give a blow by blow, I am sorry line by line reply.

Though Hiranyakasipu was killed by the Divine hands, he did not have LOVE or Devotion for God. How can Lord reside in such a loveless heart?

Agreed Hiranyakasipu did not have love or devotion for God. But do you mean to say that our Lord did not reside in such a heart? Do you want to say that God is so mean, that he loves only those who love him. Not at all, Vanaja. At least not the God I know. Not the God I've been worshipping all my life. Even if we hate him, He loves. Even if we say that He is not there, He recognises our existence and loves us more. If God were to love only those who love Him, then God would be no better than us, human beings. God loved Hiranyan so much that he wanted to separate him from the evil.

To be more technical - Lord did not take Hiranyakasipu on His laps, He kept him on the Door step. Lord used His lifeless nails to tear him apart.

This was an amusing statement. You mean to say, God's nails were lifeless? I tell you vanaja, as a desperate person hungering for His love, any day I'd rather prefer my body to be torn by his 'lifeless' nails than be an average devotee lifelessly chanting His name for many lives.

Whereas our Prahalada was pulled out from death by the Divine hands at various occasions. Please don't ever aspire for such a kind of death. I am not contradicting your thoughts but your thoughts made me to realize the underlying truth.

I am not aspiring for death. I am aspiring for God. Whether Hiranyan loved God or not is immaterial. The fact that God touched him, killed him gave salvation to him, right? He was restored to his original glory of being the security guard at the gates of Vaikuntam.
Our Acharyas give this explanation. A man drinks poison without knowing that it is poison. Will the poison not act on him because he did not know? Will his ignorance become a defence against poison? No.
Applying this example on the positive side even though Hiranyan might not have known,loved or prayed to God, God's coming near him and killing him with his own hands would definitely have had its effect.

Prayer is for mind as food is for the body. So our prayers should be filled with only good and positive thoughts. Not even about death. If we really want our death to be glorious we should see good, do good and be good. It will be taken care of by God ultimately.

My prayer is not death. Nor my prayer is to do bad deeds like Hiranyan. My prayers are not for harming Devas, human beings and the lot. My prayers are that He should come to me. He should touch me. And if that would happen only by my death, I'll be even more happy. My life is a worthless piece of coin I can throw at his hundial in exchange for the most precious gift of being torn by his loving hands.

The mere feeling that God is above us, below us and around us will alone elevate us in our lives. The love of God will dispel the ignorance and conceit of man as the sun dispels the morning mist. The heart is the seat of love. That love must express itself, to begin with, in the home. From there, it must extend to one's village or town, to one's state, nation and ultimately to the whole world.

So, when you feel hurt, the God in you feels hurt. Cheer up Sir, Do you want your God to feel hurt? Make Him happy, cheer up yourself. Everything will be taken care off by Him.

Wonderful words, Vanaja. I'll have this framed in my mind. Should a similar incident occur again (God forbid!) I would read these words and console myself.
But then I may not be able to write a poem too!
Thanks for the nice response, vanaja.
regards,


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Sriniketan,

Glad to read that you had been out of your shell and also happy to read that SHE has helped you come out of this situation...successfully..
SHE is there to help us all the time...

Thanks.

I had to disagree with your thoughts..(maybe I am not matured enough to think of in that line)..
I had to agree what gayu and Vanaja says....we can be with HER always in many ways, not only through 'Hiranyakasipu', Kamsan and Ravanan' ways...I raised this question in one of my threads..'3 or 7...referring to what did Jaya and Vijaya chose to be bad guys than take pious births...

Thanks again for reviving the Hiranyakashipu argument. I will be grateful if you can provide links to your thread so that I can read them and respond to your post. You have raised a pertinent question why did Jaya and Vijaya opted to be bad guys? I remember to have read somewhere that they were given a choice. God told them. "Be born as pious souls and reach here after a hundred births. Or be born as bad guys and reach here after 3 births."
Suppose we are given a choice like that what will we choose?

Our puranas are not Aesop fables. They are not moral stories. They are poetry and novels of the highest order. Unlike Aesops fables which are intended to teach the children good and bad, our mythology teaches us adults the secret of God's love indirectly.
So when I said in my poem that I want to be Hiranya, I did not want to side with the evil. I just wanted to experience His love standing that close to him.

You know what Sriniketan? We good, nice, respectable people just say our prayers mechanically and never think of God. But people like Hiranyakashipu constantly think of God.

I'll give you another example. I love Kambar. I have got the whole Ramayanam set. But I have not read more than a few verses. I know a person who belonged to DMK earlier. At that time DMK was involved in a compaign against Ramayanam. Some idiot wrote a book called Keemayanam. This man's duty was to condemn Kamba Ramayanam in every party meeting he spoke. So he had to perforce read the epic. And he read it much faster than I could. And once the meaning soaked into his being, he got absorbed into Kambar. He quit the party and is now an exponent of Kambar. Now when he recites the verse which ends with the words, Aayiram Raaman nin kel aavaro, tears roll down his eyes and his voice becomes choked.
But I, the good idiot, the nice guy, still cannot read more than a few verses. Anyday he is a million times better than me. What say you?
regards,

Dear Sudha,

thanks for the welcome message. Yes I have already prepared the curtain raiser for the new serial. I will start writing the episodes any time now. I want to make the story not as heavy as HE or SHE. But I am still wondering whether I am capable of writing light stories.

You may be right. May be SHE was preparing me for the new serial this way. Who knows?
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
regards,

Originally Posted by sudhavnarasimhan

Dear Sridhar,

Glad to see you back.......with a bang! And fine also!
I don't want to add anything more, everyone has said it all! So just welcome back and WAITING FOR THE LOVE STORY! Waiting for more fun and heartbreaks!( after all doesn't Love and such stories always end in tragedies, for them to be FELT MORE!) In fact that is exactly what you went thru.....or your SHE put you through.....a Love and A heartbreak....( anything too much is not good, we have to be brought back to earth with a thud isn't it true always!) and see now you are FINE and all set for a Love story Again! ha ha.....
So another reason to celebrate...... we are all anyway Toasting in another thread for no Reason.....so .....

Dear Vanaja,
I love this one more argument of yours on the issue. I have already argued enough. I'd just say these words.
I have read the mythological stories of many of the cultures of the world. The Indian ones are the best I know,because, the myth, the story, grows with you.
I heard the Prahalada story when I was probably four or five. At that time it was just a moral story. And quite an interesting one too. Lord coming out of a random pillar, half-lion, half-man...Fascinating for a five year old. I revisited the story when my daughter was four or five. My daughter loved the story so much that I have narrated it many times. I was in my thirties at that time and the story now had different dimensions.
When Jaya-Vijaya was offered a choice -being born as pious men for a hundred births or Asuras for 3 births - they chose the latter. I would say that was a brilliant choice. They were the real devotees of God. And the beauty of beauty is that the person who made that choice. A Rishi in some versions and the Lord himself in others. That person knew very well that being born as bad guys to die at the hands of Vishnu for 3 births was equal to being born as good guys and die our glorified natural, peaceful deaths a hundred times. I started to wonder. In fact I have written a whole short story based on this concept and is coming out as part of my book by this year end.

And then I heard the same story in Yoga Vaashishta. The story has another sequel there. Prahalada becomes afraid of the Lion God. He is afraid that the Lord might in his anger kill him too. And then he gets to know that the Lord is not other than him. Advaitha is taught to him.
The story still has got a lot of hidden meanings. Hiranyas boon and the way it is broken. All contain deep mystical lessons for us to ponder for lifetimes.

I should thank you for making me ponder a bit on those lines.
regards,

Oh my dear GF,

where have you been all these days? In fact I decided not to open a new thread till you replied to this. So now I can open it any time from now.
We thought of honeymooning in the Swiss Alps. But I heard it is very cold there these days. Instead we chose to honeymoon in Chokkikulam, Madurai which is warmer.

I am fine. In fact I knew that all my GFs will be anxious to know that. So I used the words I am fine right on the title itself.

To be able to breathe, to be able to earn ones' food and to have the appetite to eat it, to be able to hear and speak, to write and read, to move and stay, to sit and stand and lie down - everything is possible only by Her grace.

You are right about SHE being THE GF to all of us. But I won't be able to forget you all. SHE has manifest herself in so many forms, in so many GFs to send HER love to me, to teach me, to chastise me and to reform me, if that's possible.

Thanks for your blessings BF. I pray SHE be your guardian angel for ever more.

You are welcome, GF. And thanks for your prayers and wishes.
love,
Your BF

Originally Posted by corallux

Now BF,

What's going on? I thought you & Mrs.Varlottiji must be honeymooning away in the Swiss Alps.

Hope you are fine now. To come out of a hurtful situation & compose a poem straight from the heart is possible only with HER grace & mercy. You are lucky BF.

Forget us, SHE is your true GF. See how she made you come out of your self-imposed exile.

As Chithraji once told me, people hurt us in thought deed & action. Leave everything to HER & see the peace you get. Since you follow the same school of thought BF, I hope & pray things go well for you from now on....

Marketing tricks? Yes BF, you drew us to read something very relevant to our day to day lives without giving it a religious twist and have also shown us how HER blessings can help us tide over the worst of situations.

Thanks for your blessings BF. I pray SHE be your guardian angel for ever more.

Regards,

Corallux

Dear Sridhar,
We all did miss you! Now that you are back with a bang with your beautiful poem we are all sure you will continue to be with us. I was a little busy but had been checking for your threads to see if there was a new one. I wondered if both you and Cheeniya sir had bid a good bye to us without a word! But then I saw Cheeniya sir's compendium to Chithra's 'Geetha'.
Well your replys to Vanaja were quite convincing though I would never dream of such a gory death even if it was to be in the hands of God! I would love Him to sing a lullaby to me in my sleep thus taking me back to Him in a most painless way. If at all I have to suffer, let it be in life and not in death would be my prayer to Him!
Lovely poem right from your heart.
Love,
Malathi

Dear Malathi,
More than your missing me I did miss you all these days. You know that during the interim period of about 2, 3 weeks though I did not post anything new in IL I was constantly posting in the Azhwar Paasuram thread.
(The Perfect Ending Thread) We were and are still discussing the paasurams of Thiruppanazhwar. We have covered half of them.
Whenever you are free and inclined just go through them.
Hope you have been doing well at your end.
regards,
sridhar

Originally Posted by Malathijagan

Dear Sridhar,
We all did miss you! Now that you are back with a bang with your beautiful poem we are all sure you will continue to be with us. I was a little busy but had been checking for your threads to see if there was a new one. I wondered if both you and Cheeniya sir had bid a good bye to us without a word! But then I saw Cheeniya sir's compendium to Chithra's 'Geetha'.
Well your replys to Vanaja were quite convincing though I would never dream of such a gory death even if it was to be in the hands of God! I would love Him to sing a lullaby to me in my sleep thus taking me back to Him in a most painless way. If at all I have to suffer, let it be in life and not in death would be my prayer to Him!
Lovely poem right from your heart.
Love,
Malathi