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Old 25th November 2007, 07:11 PM
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Nice thread to read. Surpirsingly i had an experience during this navarathri days which i would like to share this with you..

I used to wear a big diamond nose pin presented by my parents. Though i dont like wearing big things , my mom suggested that for my (kili????)mooku big diamond nose pin looks beautiful. After somedays i removed it and started wearing a small ring . On the occation of this navarathri , i decided to change my nose pin to diamond one. i tried to wear it but since the hole is very small, i could not. somehow i pushed the thandu inside the hole and wore it. it started giving so much pain that i could not even sleep for 2 days with continuous headache. Since the pain was unbearable (like newly pierced nose) i decided to meet my physician. finally it ended up with oinment instead of mookuthi for the inflammation i got on the nose, and some antiboitics.(mookuthi poi marundu vandadu!!!!) now i bought a small nose pin to wear and trying to make the hole little big so that i can wear my big mookuthi .


Now i can tell i wore a special mookuthi which noone can wear on the occasion of Navarathri festival.

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vow lal,
what u say is right new mookkuthi for navrathri, wish you could had applied some oil before putting this nose ring may be it would had helped but yes nice way now, to let it loosen a little to wear the original...look forward to that day that u wear it...sunkan
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Old 28th November 2007, 08:32 AM
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WOW sunkan ma'am...

this is definitely an interesting topic here.
1stly i must say that i am part of the 'unpierced' gang. but only for a short while i hope, because much to my parents dismay, i actually want to get my nose pierced.coming from malaysia, only certain traditions are practiced. and unlike the nose piercing, it is no longer a must for the girls. only some families (those i presume have closer ties to india) still uphold this practice. nowadays most teenage girls do want to get piercings and they are not afraid of withstanding the pain. it is the parents who are against this.
*sigh*

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WOW sunkan ma'am...

this is definitely an interesting topic here.
1stly i must say that i am part of the 'unpierced' gang. but only for a short while i hope, because much to my parents dismay, i actually want to get my nose pierced.coming from malaysia, only certain traditions are practiced. and unlike the nose piercing, it is no longer a must for the girls. only some families (those i presume have closer ties to india) still uphold this practice. nowadays most teenage girls do want to get piercings and they are not afraid of withstanding the pain. it is the parents who are against this.
*sigh*

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dear maya,
i also belong to the gang but when you read some write ups u regret why u never got it done in time...hope u will change your mind and get it done, definitely ettukallu besthri potta eduppa irukkumm mookku ...sk
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Old 29th November 2007, 06:02 AM
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dear maya,
i also belong to the gang but when you read some write ups u regret why u never got it done in time...hope u will change your mind and get it done, definitely ettukallu besthri potta eduppa irukkumm mookku ...sk

hi ma'am
i definitely want to get my nose pierced...by hook or by crook, because i do not want to regret later.unortunately, as i had mentioned, my parents are the ones against my decision. more so my dad. i know i can persuade my mom, its my dad who can be impossible to convince. since im going back to malaysia soon for vacation, i will definitely do it.

by the way ma'am, please excuse me for my ignorance, but what exactly is ettukallu besthri?:confused:

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Old 29th November 2007, 06:58 AM
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hi ma'am
i definitely want to get my nose pierced...by hook or by crook, because i do not want to regret later.unortunately, as i had mentioned, my parents are the ones against my decision. more so my dad. i know i can persuade my mom, its my dad who can be impossible to convince. since im going back to malaysia soon for vacation, i will definitely do it.

by the way ma'am, please excuse me for ignorance, but what exactly is ettukallu besthri?:confused:

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it is the eight stone nose ring which is famous in diamond and white stone, it has a diamond shape like the one we have in a pack of cards and just one gap missing we arrange the rest of 8 stones, so it is known as ettu kal besthri...i had to do photoshop for you suhan hope now u understand what it is...sunkan
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hi ma'am,
wow...dat is really stunning. thanks for taking the trouble to do photoshop and uploading the picture.

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hi ma'am,
wow...dat is really stunning. thanks for taking the trouble to do photoshop and uploading the picture.

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dear maya,
i am happy u liked it, wondered how else to show, all my search engines gave me trouble could not find the right one, so happy for you too..sunkan
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Dear Sunkan,

Once again a great observation from you about the mookuthi! Yes, I know that song and the movie too which was so good.
It was fascinating to know that so many women are for piercing the nose today. Even in countries outside India, piercing is a Big deal, all of us know.
My mom too had both sides of her nose pierced and was wearing the mookuthi and besthri. As a matter of fact, I always thought that MSS looked so much like my mom:) Big pottu, nose rings and poo in the hair! It is so sad that our women have to give up on the way they dress after the husband's demise.
As for me and my sis, oh no, we never even remotely thought about piercing our nose(s)!! Even the thought of it brings tears to my eyes! Luckily, my daughters too did not entertain such thoughts, which they could easily have as it is such an in-thing today!!

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Dear Sunkan,

Once again a great observation from you about the mookuthi! Yes, I know that song and the movie too which was so good.
It was fascinating to know that so many women are for piercing the nose today. Even in countries outside India, piercing is a Big deal, all of us know.
My mom too had both sides of her nose pierced and was wearing the mookuthi and besthri. As a matter of fact, I always thought that MSS looked so much like my mom:) Big pottu, nose rings and poo in the hair! It is so sad that our women have to give up on the way they dress after the husband's demise.
As for me and my sis, oh no, we never even remotely thought about piercing our nose(s)!! Even the thought of it brings tears to my eyes! Luckily, my daughters too did not entertain such thoughts, which they could easily have as it is such an in-thing today!!

L, Kamla
happy kamla,
you came by and dropped a few lines here, otherwise the decorum was missing something as it is about woman and their adornment, the piercing should be done when all things are tender, sorry to say but if i decide today to go and get done i know i am letting myself more pain than necessary, but if my madness drives, you think we woman will back out on pain never...sunkan
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Dear Sunkan and others

Unfortunately I don't understand the tamil words but this is a very interesting topic. I am from South Africa so to understand from where I'm coming from in terms of the indian community check my post in Indians in Africa- Who's my relative? SA Indian. It seems that wearing a nose ring is a tradition practised for ages even if there's no religious authority to verify this. I remember both my great grannies wearing mukuthi and also many naanies used to wear naath. But slowly the tradition died off. It came back in fashion not by traditionalists but by the "piercing craze" that swept through a while back.

Almost 2 years back a mum and daughter Navi and Sonali Pillay challenged the courts when her daughter's school refused to allow her to wear a nose ring. The case was lost first but the mum took it further to the Constitutional court when this year she won, and the judge said that people should not be disriminated against because of their religious/ cultural background. Funny enough "learned hindu scholars" in South Africa could not give support to her case since they felt that it was of no religious significance. Even the Indian public in general weren't too vocal about it because it's not a tradition that we know too much about or practice. Then there was debate that if she chose to go to that school then she should abide by their rules.

Although I was disturbed by the intolerance of the school authorities I too wasn't too passionate of this matter until NOW. My daughter turned one and my mum said that for Mayuri's birthday the earings and piercing would be her present. Like many years ago when I was one, my granny took me to the jewellers and pierced my ears. Now if someone interferes with my daughters pierced ears I too would be upset though it traditional, cultural but not religious. In South Africa religious differences are to be respected but its a grey area about some cultural aspects.

Can people tell me if there is any religious significance or specific rituals that people do when piercing the nose or ears?

PS: I am married into a Govender family. While there is no such surname in India they are from the Gounder/ Gounda community - it would be interesting to know some of their traditions.

Regards Neesha
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