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Old 15th April 2008, 10:02 AM
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Arrow Amnesty- Sonia style

I have heard President granting clemency to citizen of a country.

I have heard in Muslim countries the accused will be spared of his life if the victim's family gives "pardon"

Here in Rajiv Gandhi assasination case I cannot understand the PARDONING power of Sonia.

Another thing which I find very humprous is Priyanka's "PERSONAL MEETING"

We are rightly called "Agraharathile Kazhutakal".
For whom is this package prepared by the Gandhe(not Gandhi) family. kanaka
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Dear Kanaka,

I was shocked when I read Priyanka had visited Nalini in Prison.

Sounds suss....The power to grant Clemency rests with the President. Looks like the Gandhi family has had it too good. All rules are made to suit them.

I feel it all an eyewash to gather more Tamil votes.I never sympathised with them & whatever little respect I had for them has gone out of the window in full.....

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country.

I have heard in Muslim countries the accused will be spared of his life if the victim's family gives "pardon"

Here in Rajiv Gandhi assasination case I cannot understand the PARDONING power of Sonia.

Another thing which I find very humprous is Priyanka's "PERSONAL MEETING"

We are rightly called "Agraharathile Kazhutakal".
For whom is this package prepared by the Gandhe(not Gandhi) family. kanaka
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Old 16th April 2008, 06:53 AM
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Dear,

Try toread 'Hindu". It seems there is no record indicating Priyanka's visit. Jail register has shown a record of people who have been provided bail -- - - - - - and only one person had visited one convict. The name of the person who visited some convict is not PRIYANKA.

It is said perhaps she had met Nalilni under fictitious name which itself is violation of law. Nobody had seen priyanka there! GREAT

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Tell me whether it could happen in Italy!
Why do the Indira Gandhi family use the surname GANDHI
Why are we Indians so docile?

Apart from this questions, I am surprised I got only one response. Why do we ladies indulge only in mundane topics? Any no.of responses for posts like 'how did I meet my DH' How we celebrated our wedding anniversary -- - - - --etc. Initially I didn't know what DH'BIL'SIL etc meant.

Thanks for the feedback. kanaka. Do read the article in Hindu.

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Dear Kanaka,

Pls calm down......It made my BP shoot up too.....

All you have to do is go on Orkut & you will more articles on the Gandhi family . There is one where Rahul & his Cronies gang raped a worker's daughter. The case was hushed up.

TOI on Tuesday published a conf from Rahul about Priyanka visiting Nalini & how he supports her...

Listen Kanaka so long we are enamoured by the awe of the white skin, nothing will change.

I may sound harsh Kanaka but for India's survival, Military rule is the only way.

I am shocked there is no responce for this post.

Now for your ques:

1.NO NON CATHOLIC/ITALIAN CAN SIT ON THE HIGHEST POLITCAL OFFICE

2.IT IS EASY TO CONFUSE THE PEOPLE WITH THE NAME OF THE OTHER GANDHI-HELPS IN GETTING VOTES

3.WE HAVE A LAID BACK ATTITUDE.

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Try toread 'Hindu". It seems there is no record indicating Priyanka's visit. Jail register has shown a record of people who have been provided bail -- - - - - - and only one person had visited one convict. The name of the person who visited some convict is not PRIYANKA.

It is said perhaps she had met Nalilni under fictitious name which itself is violation of law. Nobody had seen priyanka there! GREAT

1.
Tell me whether it could happen in Italy!
Why do the Indira Gandhi family use the surname GANDHI
Why are we Indians so docile?

Apart from this questions, I am surprised I got only one response. Why do we ladies indulge only in mundane topics? Any no.of responses for posts like 'how did I meet my DH' How we celebrated our wedding anniversary -- - - - --etc. Initially I didn't know what DH'BIL'SIL etc meant.

Thanks for the feedback. kanaka. Do read the article in Hindu.
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Dear Kanaka, Lakshmi,

I understand your anxiety and anger. It is totally justified as it is a very sorry state of affairs.
Atrocities in the name of poilitics is not unheard of in India. Right from the voting system to the election of members who cannot even spell politics or know the number of states in our country.
I agree that it seems weird and preposterous to let go of somebody or pardon someone who's been involved in a gruesome murder, especially if the person happens to be the Prime Minister of the country , then I think all the citizens do have a right to have a say in the matter. The excuse that she then had a 5 month old kid is really absurd, Was she drunk when supporting a heinous crime.??
Anyway I guess some things never change, Call it a fetish for the white skin or the ignorance of the masses or the sheer disinterest to genuinely bring about some kind of difference to our country. Makes me wonder did the Britishers merely make way for the Italians??

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Hi Ladies,
I understand your feelings. It did seem ridiculous to me at first, priyanka meeting nalini and all. Even now I feel, the timing of the meeting was planned well in advance ,to time it all just before the elections.

But so far as I have read in TOI, it says nalini did not know anything of the plot.Her fault was just being present at the venue that fateful day. It might be true, might be not.But if it is true then Nalini is innocent and in that case just imagine all that she has gone through. Also, no one knows who was behind Rajiv´s assasination.It is believed LTTE was behind it, but no one is sure.

Believe me I am not a big fan of the Gandhi family. But the meeting doesnot not irk me any more now. It might have just been a genuine effortby priyanka to see right into the eyes of one of the assasins ( Supposedly) and judge for herself if she is really innocent.

I know this sounds too filmi, but what if this is true......
No one can tell for sure I guess.

Just my opinion.

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Hi Kanaka

I just couldn't resist penning my thoughts here! I dont get much time to browse thru IL everyday.... hence I keep skipping many such good posts...
Coming to the point now...

I personally feel that it is yet another political gimmick played by the family of Rajiv Gandhi. As long as back-bone-less people are present in the Congress party, such things will keep happening In fact, we as a family, were extremely upset when Congress won the last general elections. Particularly my father and FIL, who were present during the freedom struggle / independence. My FIL, who still wears only Khadi dresses, was quite down at the prospect of an Italian getting to rule our country - the country for whose freedom many greats gave their lives!!! If only it had become true.... I am not sure what would have happened to him

I feel it is we people who are also responsible for this sorry state of affairs; we, particularly me, have talked on this innumerable times but still could not do anything about it...WHY???

I have not been able to exercise my right to vote since the last 5 years simply because of my relocation and in spite of following up with the authorities, havent managed to transfer the same / get a new one..... Not that my SINGLE vote would change the destiny but each such SINGLE vote could bring about a MAJOR change. This is the least we could do - EXERCISE YOUR VOTE WITHOUT FAIL!

Corallux, about your views on the military rule, I am not very sure it is working either in the countries where it is in ACTION at present... so cannot completely agree with you on this.

I feel COMMUNISM may work definitely..because it would stop everybody from hoarding things... it has worked in China!

If not anything else, I feel we need a revolution similar to that of 'French Revolution' where "guillotine' brought those in power, down... and I have a strong feeling that it may happen one day... Not sure if it would in my lifetime though

Kanaka, on your query about the surname being used by Indira's family - Indira married Feroze Gandhi and hence it became a lucky charm for her! God has been very generous to them ... if only it had been a minute fraction of it to our dear country, we could have been better off.....

Sorry, to have poured my thoughts... but I sincerely would want do something fruitful to my country during my lifetime....

Regards

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Old 17th April 2008, 01:17 PM
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Dear Vase
I have sent one private mesage to you apart from this posting. We indians are for ever docile. We never have the courage to speak our mind.
It is sad to see some Italian shaping our country and taking decisions while so called Indian male keep nodding their head and keep saying YES MADAM. kanaka

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Dear Vase,

I agree, Military rule is not solution. But "Lathon ke bhoot baaton se nahin Maante".

I do not mind giving up a few of my fundamental rights to see my country prosper.

What we have now with the rule of the Gandhi family is nothing but "elected monarchy" where it is assumed the nxt gen takes over.

My ques is. if the visit was indeed "Humanitarian", why now? Is it not a coincidence, the visit has come about when elections in TN have been announced?

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Hello Kanaka,



I really had laugh of my day with this quote. I am replying because I found this remark very hilarious. I am personally through reader of politics and Economy. So I could have taken a shot at it easily. But I guess there are no many posts in IL that its hard to keep track.

Now coming back to the topic, Priyanka visting and Sonia Gandhi granting Amnesty. I personally think there is nothing wrong in it. If for one minute we take their political status away.. They were the biggest sufferers of that murder. So they do have right to react as per their wound's status.

When faced with acute tragedy in personal life, people react from extreme rage to mellowed depression to inner calm. I can personally relate to their pain, not to the limit of murder but I have seen how our own anger takes forms when faced with extreme situations. Whatever they are doing is just to heal their own wounds. Unless you forgive the whole incident , you will reliving it every moment in your heart. Its just a matter of seeing things from human side than political side.

If you remember in Missionary Graham Stains murder, his widow forgave the main accused, press asked him why she did it. Her reply was, "Forgiveness heals".

I believe in that quote to the core.

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