Discipline Has Changed

Dear Viji
There is a definete trend that teachers would rather not discipline and would just let it go. Have you seen many parents are 2 income families and are so busy that they just by pass the discipline factor as it is really hard work. And if no one does this what are we going to look at down the line??

Hi AC,

I am on your side....

Discipline,the way to look at it has changed a lot during fast 10 years, almost everywhere.There used to a definite norms and codes before agreed upon both by the parents and the school (teachers and management).

The frustration,the too much interference from parents in the form of lawsuits. On the other hands, the teachers are also at fault. teachers and headteachers stop ignoring the fact that bullying and other things happen does occur within the school, instead of sweeping it under the carpet.

I also wonder if we have done the mistake of treating children like small adults and kids used to be, and hence giving them the slack..we i mean the society as a whole.

The Whole society as a whole needs to look at the changing scenario as whole, look at matters like why are children misbehaving (root cause), the teachers frustations (lack of patience, too much stress, too much interference) and also the parents (too much indulging, over seeing the faults of the children...)

I also am from a convent school. My children go to a Christian school. MY DD says she is scared of the principal. the principal in reality is a very soft spoken nice lady..but she keep a cover of looking strict for maintaining the discipline at school.

Though i talk on this discipline..look at the discussion going on this thread..
http://www.indusladies.com/forums/sc...-new-post.html

And I feel there should be a balance somewhere. both the extremes are not good for the future of the kids.

Shanthi DF (dearest friend)
as always you write great !
thanks for that thread link..
In my experience I have seen so many parents rushing to the kids side in defense. sometimes its because they do not spend as much time with the children and they are guilty..hence the coverup.
It is a pity that teachers are not allowed to do their job.
Let me tell you something that happened recently in one school which even got media attention.
One child i think 9 yrs or so went to bathroom but messed up little bit on the toilet seat. so teacher asked the kid to get paper towel and clean since there was one toilet shared by all kids. This became the biggest of all issues and teacher got suspended. what do u say?

Originally Posted by anandchitra

my dearie sundari
I liked your last statement.. education left alone than interference! Truly if some parents dont try to interfer Teachers can do their job..now its scary for teachers to do their job..BTW what are u doing up so early?? Take some rest friend:)

how very right AC
to night i got up by 2.30 am and could not get sleep so browsed and saw ur article there, felt better to write what i feel rather than put it off till morning..sunkan

Cell phones in the school class room? Well I would say it is not the mistake of the girl. It is the definite mistake of the parents who buy that and give. I know some parents do give certain lame excuses "Oh... my daughter needs to be connected with me. what if there is an emergency?", "My son goes for drawing class, swimming class etc., what if some of these classes are cancelled? how will the instructer communicate" etc.,

These are heights of craziness and I would say it is misusing the technology. Take a teenager in US. They have so much of pocket money, that they stand in queue to grab the latest iPod release. You can number the children who don't possess an iPod. So much money given to them that they surely doesn't understand the value of money.

Things are not better in other countries. I remember one of the rich man's son who would be hardly 10 years old, walking into a satelite dish shop in Dubai and asking for a Adult rated movie smart cards and willing pay 500DHS for it. So much of money that is given to his discretion.

So I would hold the parents responsible for such pampered and spolit brats.

MFL

dear AC,

Discipline is taught only during the childhood...................so i feel there is no harm when the child is punished for misbehaving, not following rules and regulations......though my daughter, being a dyslexic, had problems with her teachers in the school, i would always tell her to adjust and that she is becoming more strong and strong each day .................

love
padma

dear indusguy,

i know how bad it would have been for you ................when the teachers punished ........even after so many years you are not able to forget those incidents, since its rooted into you.........i was thinking of my daughter when you had written about your emotions

love
padma

Originally Posted by myfairlady

Cell phones in the school class room? Well I would say it is not the mistake of the girl. It is the definite mistake of the parents who buy that and give. I know some parents do give certain lame excuses "Oh... my daughter needs to be connected with me. what if there is an emergency?", "My son goes for drawing class, swimming class etc., what if some of these classes are cancelled? how will the instructer communicate" etc.,

These are heights of craziness and I would say it is misusing the technology. Take a teenager in US. They have so much of pocket money, that they stand in queue to grab the latest iPod release. You can number the children who don't possess an iPod. So much money given to them that they surely doesn't understand the value of money.

Things are not better in other countries. I remember one of the rich man's son who would be hardly 10 years old, walking into a satelite dish shop in Dubai and asking for a Adult rated movie smart cards and willing pay 500DHS for it. So much of money that is given to his discretion.

So I would hold the parents responsible for such pampered and spolit brats.

MFL

My dear Giri
Shall I assume you dont have a child especially a teenager since yur so young
These days children lay the rules. and parents follow mostly since they are guilty not spending enough time..
Its very very common for kids to have a cell phone these days. My son is probably the only ONE who does not own one. Even i dont carry one. But kids are very different these days not like before..and parents are different too..because they have more money they become more indulgent!

Well said AC,

Parents are indulging the kids a lot and they become the masters of the house and in some houses, I am sorry to say, "monsters" too.

Here in S'pore almost all the S'poreans , both the parents are working and they wont really have time to discipline the kids but the question is whether they are willing to do it. They escape by pushing the responsibilities towards the school but not happy when the teachers do something towards disciplining. In the end, the untamed kids rule the house and school

Dear AC,
As always,There are two sides of the coin - This act , done in US was given with a punishment of staying back in school whish is no harm and i too support the minority side of you ppl.But in India, its just extreme on both sides.Either the students are given with extreme corporal punishments or the teachers are taunted enough.Though u get to hear incidents about only the first part, i can vouch for the second part.

My Aunt is a High school Maths Teacher working for a Management school.Once she found a girl copying in the Half yearly exam.She caught hold of her and took her to the Principal's office as in ur case.The principal warned her and demanded for an explanation thats it.Nothing more happened.The girl was allowed to write the next exam with a warning.But this girl, though that as a prestige issue and attempted to fall from the second floor of the school, but rescued by the school aayas and some teachers.I see no wrong in the teachers action or in the Principal action.But, next day her parents came with"arivaal" and taunted & passed on remarks about the Teacher(my aunt) and the Principal.