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Discussion in 'Schoolgoers & Teens' started by rsamk, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. rsamk

    rsamk New IL'ite

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    My 7 yr old child who lives in US is been diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and been prescribed fluexotine(prosac) for an year for depression and hydroxyzine as and when needed. I am not very comfortable with antidepressant prescriptions and prefer something natural. My child also has tics.Does anyone have an idea on St Johns wort or MindSoothe Jr etc ..or any other natural medication for kids anxiety and depression that is safe and effecti.Please suggest
     
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  2. Shanvy

    Shanvy IL Hall of Fame

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    @gauri03 your opinion needed here.

    and rsamk i would suggest go with the treatment if it helps. i am happy that we now can diagonise anxiety and depression and are not clothing it as growing pains.

    my son goes through anxiety attacks sometimes, though we have not started any medicines, we have found his bp tends to rise during those attacks, and are finding ways of helping him understand the root cause for these attacks. being supportive, acknowledging and understanding is all they need.

    A friend recommended reading this site. and i have found a lot of useful information here. hope it helps you.
    Parenting - Helping Your Anxious Child or Teen | Anxiety BC
     
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    guesshoo IL Hall of Fame

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    If you are against medication, please talk to your doctor about it. Ask them - push really - for alternatives. It would of course depend on the extent of the issue. You could always get a second opinion from someone else and ask about techniques to manage it without medication.

    For adults, exercise / physical activity is supposed to help greatly. Also cognitive behavioural therapy. (There are websites online where you can find free CBT too) regulating breathing also is supposed to help a great deal (again you would be able to find the exact technique online)

    could any any of these be useful for your child? Good luck
     
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    CrayoNess Platinum IL'ite

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    Are you going to therapy? Medication is fine but it should be supported by therapy (for children) to remove the root cause/make permanent improvement.
     
  5. Gauri03

    Gauri03 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Have you sought a second opinion on the medication? Though I understand your hesitation to medicate a child that young, there is empirical evidence to indicate that medication combined with behavioral therapy is the most effective treatment for childhood anxiety disorders. In fact children who received only one of these treatments, either therapy or medication, had much poorer outcomes than kids who received both. However, as a parent you are right in being leery of medicating your child. At that age overmedication can negatively impact brain development. Kids with behavioral and mental health issues are at serious risk of being overmedicated. Drugs should be the absolute last resort but sadly they are often used first because they are the easy option. So I'd make sure the medication is absolutely required. My hope is that your son's doctor has considered the benefits against potential deleterious effects. Has his doctor recommended any form of therapy along with the medication? I'd give those some time to work before resorting to drugs. At the very least, I recommend seeking a few alternate opinions on the antidepressants.

    Tics are a sign of internalized stress. What kind of tics does your son display? Stress induced anxiety is the primary cause of depression in children that young. For kids so young, the biggest barrier to recovery is communication. They don't have the requisite language skills to communicate their feelings. Your son is only 7. He doesn't understand what is happening to him, or why it happens. He cannot explain how it makes him feel. Try to find out how he prefers to express himself and then meet him at his level. For instance, it might be easier for him to describe his anxiety on a numeric scale, or with colors of increasing intensity. Instead of talking about how bad his anxiety is, he might find it easier to say, 'I'm feeling red or I'm a 6'. Help him identify his triggers, encourage him to talk about what makes him anxious, then work on strategies to handle those triggers. Keep talking to him. About his feelings and yours. About your own stresses and how you handle them. Once he is able to pinpoint specific stressful situations, work with him to find step by step techniques to manage them. Enacting stressful scenarios and role-playing can help equip him to face his fears.

    Often childhood anxiety stems from feelings of inadequacy, and fear of failure. One approach to handle this is building his self-confidence by engaging in tasks he can get good at. Start by setting simple, easy to accomplish goals, and as he shows improvement keep moving the goal-post. Getting good at a sport or a musical instrument can help alleviate stress by boosting self-esteem.

    While therapy is an important component of a treatment protocol, do remember that with children results are usually mixed and take longer to appear. For therapy to work the patient must willingly participate in the exercise and understand its importance. Children being children find this very hard to do. As Guesswho suggested, a better alternative is Cognitive Behavior Therapy. Unlike regular therapy, CBT sessions last only a few months and provide concrete behavior altering tools to the child. CBT involves exercises, worksheets and homework. It is much better suited for children. But I would recommend seeing a professional therapist and not relying on the Internet or books for it. I would suggest that you get a CBT book to familiarize yourself with the techniques, to better help your son.

    Outdoor activities, especially those involving nature are excellent in alleviating depression. Bike riding, camping, fishing, or simply a day out in the park will help your child feel happier. Regular outdoor play, or planned sports activities are equally beneficial. Yoga and mindfulness exercises are also often recommended. Creative play such as making art, playing music or writing a journal can help a child express themselves non-verbally. Just make sure that you get him to express the good feelings along with the negative ones.
    Anxious children tend to withdraw into themselves. Social isolation worsens the anxiety and depression. Activities that facilitate interaction and bonding with peers or other people should be high on the priority list. Team sports, and board games come to mind.

    As a parent the most important thing you can provide is a stable, supportive family environment. Overcoming mental health disorders has much to do with a positive, can-do attitude, and with children the onus is on the parents to display such belief. Your child will model his own attitude on yours. So stay positive and help him believe that he will beat this. Good luck!

     
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    @gauri03 please increase the font.

    @Rakhii please edit and increase the font. too difficiult

    @Gauri03 thanks a lot love, your post gives me the boost that i am on the right track with my kiddo.
     
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    Gauri03 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    oops..Can't edit post now. @Rakhii Please fix the font.
     
  8. rsamk

    rsamk New IL'ite

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    Thank you all for your possible comments. Gauri03 thanks for your detailed comment and time.My daughter is been suffering from panic attacks due to anxiety which we thought she just had behavioural issues which started soon after her first TIC appearance in 2013 beginning, and i just put her on homeopathic medication from India for behavioural issues, but was never regular on giving her dosage as i used to skip many dosages for days or no of times to be given a day.My child used to get better for 4-5 months before she again gets panic attack with strange new symptoms that would last for about a month in the past 2 years.I used to give her latest homeopathic medication i was given by doctor from India whenever she would get back her symptoms and again stop them abruptly once her no of symptoms heard were reduced.I now feel guilty for not even strictly following on the advised homeopathy medication.Suddenly she had panic attack 2 weeks ago, with unexplained fear,irritability,constantly preoccupied with some worries, she needs something but she doesnt know what she needs, she had audio hallucination ( she feels some boy of her age communicates to her mind through his mind)visual hallucination( she sees objects at times which we dont see)touch( she feels someone is touching her back and she gets scared) for a day or 2 which she had stopped after that, she pleads to constantly keep doing some fun for her or she gets restless, but she's not been able to be happy despite doing any fun activities, she cant tolerate certain words uttered by someone and goes mad and angry when she hears certain words(sensitivity to words),fatigue,sleeping difficulty.

    Generally her symptoms are appearing mostly when it gets dark(she hates dark) before bedtime and shes fine most part of the day, but again feeling fatigue and strong urge for something sweet very often.But i have to mention that when her hallucinations appeared i had just started her new changed homeopathic medication which was to be given alternate weeks this time instead of continuosuly as per homepathic doctor , not sure if that caused any side effects to her. She has great sleeping difficulty gets very irritated by hearing any noise from her little brother or any action she doesnt like her brother or father doing while playing etc..Overall house has to be very quiet and no little things should be done that would stress her in the evenings as she gets so upset and something hurts her mind very badly that she closes her ears and yells out of frustration and discomfort.But in contrary she is perfectly fine at her school as per her teachers and staff though she is a very quiet well behaved child.Also i have been having strong guilt along with painful watching my child suffer because i was strongly misguided by doula whom i had hired during my pregnancy and went to hospital 16 hrs after my water broke and was further delayed as they induced me for another 15 hrs.Overall my child was born 32 hrs past my water break( there was a delay fo 32 hr bw water break and delivery)The doula told me if i rush to hospital immediately they might induce me and do C- section and may not do normal, instead she tried to bring labor pain by asking me to try castrol drops, walk to mall. etc...and even asked me to tell doctors that my water broke only 4-5 hrs back whenever i reach hospital.I blindly obeyed her and fortunately i did have normal delivery at the end, but since i had fever throughout labor they kept my baby in nicu to rule any infection, and she came home 3 days after i got discharged.When we did MRI for my daughter in 2013 she had a report of mild diffuse cerebral atrophy which according to Indian neurologist and also here in US is normal as sometimes babies born just before or around full term would not have their brains fully developed until age 6.However neurologists diagnosed her to be having only TICS and they are harmless.But unfortunately my child started developing behavioural issues soon after and now its been 2 years since she started having these health issues for first time in her life and now we have reached to a stage where she is diagnosed of anxiety and depression.She is such a beautiful and highly talented kid in art, dance, music, but with equally more than her handful of issues that she is facing through at this age which she cant even express it properly. Honestly its been so painful to watch her suffering mentally.At the same time she is not a disabled kid and been doing kumon, school, other activities all above average despite suffering with these parallel issues.She is been thinking negativley on every little thing, guilty of little things that she thinks she has done a major blunder in life,panic and feeling of spiders or bugs on carpet and around though theres nothing,during panic attacks acting silly and non stop tendency to keep talking before bed time, struggling to sleep on time, and hence been on melatonin and struggling to wake up next day for school, hearing words on food will make her upset and frequent tummy pain soon after eating a bit, loss of apetite, feeling being isolated.I dont think i have come across any kid having so much problems at this age...
     
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    I second Gauri on a second opinion. Prozac for kids!

    What kind of tics does she have and prior to that did she display any symptoms or did they come on gradually? Have you tried noise blocking headphones to help with her sensitivity to noise. It sounds like Sensory Processing Disorder with some of the symptoms you describe.

    Do keep a journal to see if you can find a correlation to foods, activities which tend to exacerbate her tics and behaviors. If these behaviors only started in 2013, I would also suggest this website, ACN Latitudes | Natural Treatments and Help w/ Tics, Tourettes, PANDAS. Read their forum for PANDAS to see if this might be a fit for her symptoms. I think it's important to find a good specialist to figure out what is causing her issues and the best treatment modality that will help.

    Hugs and all the best.
     
  10. Gauri03

    Gauri03 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Your latest post is very troubling. Was the anxiety/depression diagnosis made after the latest panic attack? Was she diagnosed by a psychiatrist/psychologist or a school/social worker? If she hasn't been seen by a psychiatrist, she needs to see one as soon as possible. For now refrain from offering homeopathic treatments, and follow the protocol prescribed by a licensed psychiatrist. If possible, please make an appointment with a psychologist, specializing with children, for an initial counselling session. They will be able to make a diagnosis based on the symptoms you have described. I don't want to alarm you by speculating on possible diagnoses, but the symptoms seem serious enough to merit immediate attention. Timely intervention can make a world of a difference in the long-term outcomes of many childhood-onset mental disorders.

    I know that as a parent it is very difficult to see your child in pain, and it is a natural instinct to seek explanations for such senseless and arbitrary suffering inflicted upon them. But blaming yourself is not only unproductive, it will render you unable to provide the support that your daughter needs from you. Mental disorders rarely have a single, clearly defined cause. They are the result of a multitude of poorly understood factors, of which a big part is random chance. There is little you could have done to prevent your daughter's problems, but there is a lot you can do to help her.

    Please find her competent, professional medical care. Despite your reservations about psychiatric drugs, I feel that your daughter will benefit far more from a carefully tailored regimen of pharmaceuticals and professional therapy, than from unproven herbs and homeopathy.
     
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