some weird experiences and unanswered questions

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  1. jskls

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    I don't know how to start and explain but I will try to keep it short. It could be unbelievable but I don't have any proper guru to get answers. Maybe because something restricts me from following any guru in particular

    I am not too devotional or spiritual. I have had weird experiences. I have had visions of many gods and every time I see one they will have the special attribute. I have had visions of great gurus whom I wouldn't have known until then. I have had strange dreams where I would see temples,places not visited and later when I search about it I would find it. I have seen golden sivalingam in my dream and later came to know that Ravana is the one who had it.

    I have had strange premonition dreams and sometimes seen people who have passed on in my dreams. I recently saw myself opening and a golden lotus (out of this world gold color) just comes out and it radiates the golden light. Until then I didn't know about the golden lotus in the Buddhism sect.

    now coming to my question, I don't do much religious practices as the above things scares me. I am not prepared or I am not knowledgeable reading various scriptures. This had been going on for the past 25 years and increased after my second child was born. I used to practice ISHA Yoga but gave up after these experiences started to increase. Once I went to ISHA yoga center where I had the kundalini rising experience for the first time at the theerthkund. I couldn't get down in the water as the vibrations kept increasing with every step. I didn't know about it then, it was like a swift rise of energy traveling upward throughout the whole body and could feel immense vibration at the top of my head. from then on it's been almost 8 years now, I have noticed frequent vibration either on the top of my head or on my third eye chakra. recently, I have started noticing the ascent of vibration from the base of my spine to center of my back. It feels like a weird fan spinning in the center of my back and something is stuck. again I am not doing anything to voluntarily rise this. I have very simple practices. I have seen light too at many occasions either while doing simple meditation for few mins or just before I go to sleep. I was revealed about the bindu dyan meditation too only in my dream.

    I don't know what to do or what not to do. But how I feel these days is empathy towards anything and everything. The feeling I have towards all is one and the same. sometimes so empathetic that I feel like crying most of the time. In the past two weeks I have lost appetite, food craving and have lost weight without doing anything extra. I landed on this site asking for astrological advice in the first place and as advised I have been following and for the past few months my dreams/visions have not bothered me. but the vibration on the spine is something I can't do anything about.

    Any guidance could help me and sorry this has been a long post.
     
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    You said 'any guidance', so I hope you won't mind a neurological viewpoint. Please ignore my comments if they do not suit you. There's a part of me that does not want to post this - but then there is another part that is concerned for your health. So I decided that I would rather risk offending you than keep what may be useful information from you. The assumption I am making is that you are an educated adult who can thoughtfully process alien ideas.

    There are a number of studies linking brain lesions & tumors to the sort of feelings you describe. Below is a precis from one study. The original report can be found here. There is a summary here.


    (Scientists …) were interested in making a direct link between brain activity and spirituality. They focused specifically on the personality trait called self-transcendence (ST), which is thought to be a measure of spiritual feeling, thinking, and behaviors in humans. ST reflects a decreased sense of self and an ability to identify one's self as an integral part of the universe as a whole.

    …Damage to posterior parietal areas induced unusually fast changes of a stable personality dimension related to transcendental self-referential awareness. Thus, dysfunctional parietal neural activity may underpin altered spiritual and religious attitudes and behaviors

    For a scientist like me, the experiences and physical sensations you describe appear as 'symptoms', especially the underlined bits in the quote above. Rapid, unexplained weight-loss is often symptomatic of underlying illness (See here). I am not denigrating your sense of spirituality. Please take this post as simply one perspective, biased and blatantly neurological. Ignore it if you must.

    I am concerned for your well-being. I hope you will believe me when I say that I am not trying to alarm you. I'm just raising one among a range of possibilities. Please consult a neurologist to rule out unwelcome medical issues.
     
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    I welcome your input and appreciate your feedback. I will look into the links provided too. Thanks for the same.

    I am not ruling out this possibility too as i have other nerve related health concerns.

    I posted this in the spiritual section instead of health because of the information I get out of my experience and when verified later about the dream/vision, it would prove to be true or would have existed earlier. too many to omit as mere coincidence.

    Thanks again for all the information. I will look into that too and see if I can consult this with my PCP in my next visit within couple of weeks.
     
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    Dear Op,
    While sokanasanah has mentioned one perspective approach I would like to quote another.

    Kundalini rising is a bit advanced state for a normal human being in the spiritual state. While they say its preliminary state for a spiritual aspirant, it has its own risks associated. When the serpent power (kundalini) is aroused, it needs to be properly directed and meditated upon everyday without fail, else it might affect one or more vital systems. Thus an organ failure might result. Sorry to say this, but this is only an option and also it need not necessarily be so too.

    i have heard of a spiritual aspirant who aroused his kundalini and was practising everyday but in the meantime left it and his ears got impaired. A relative of mine, He leads a abnormal life like eating and sleeping and due to the damage he doesnt come out of his room as he feels shy if someone talks to him and he couldnt reply back as he is more than partially deaf.

    Like sokanasanah, I too dont want to post this, but just concerned about your health so that you should not avoid further delay to do something about it. As you know there are many centres for mediation in India and you can contact those group centers and ask them to guide you on this as my knowledge is very very limited on this and also i might have provided you a wrong information on this.

    Please google with terms 'meditation groups india'. I hope you ll find many centres for guided meditation where they arouse kundalini and progress further through transcendental meditation and other techniques. Only they can guide you on this.


    dont panic reading my post as this is only my understanding from the sources i have heard of and it might not be right also.
     
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    @coolpie, I am very very well aware of the results of incorrect practices of Kundalini meditation. So, I am not deliberately pursuing it. I am in that stage of life where my practices take back seat. Also I am not in India to contact any proper person. I am not sure what to do if it happens involuntarily. Keeping my fingers crossed that it wouldn't go further. Thanks for your FB and taking time to write. I appreciate ur FB
     
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    I have nothing against spirituality or religion - just sharing what comes to my mind.

    I haven't read much about on these subjects. I would concur with SS's viewpoint.

    Remember I mentioned to you stop reading too many books on these - once you get involved in to those, then you do imagine that there is a force with in you acting on its own and start believing / exhibiting. Something similar to scenes you might have seen in villages during "Amman Pooja's". They feel and act that "Amman" has come on them and start dancing, uttering instructions.

    In some way or other it is the vulnerable mind of these people which is subjected to this experience - the childhood, religious upbringing, a subdued brought up, a mind seeking freedom from the painful life undergone and many other reasons stem this.

    First stop reading these books and seek medical help at the earliest.

    Don't be upset with me - It's not that I don't wish to see a rising Buddha - a one with whom I have interacted - that would be great if it is so. :) Not that I would start believing in it - that will never happen too. :):):)
     
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    There are two ways to look at it, 1. Consult doctor as mentioned by others, but be cautious before you commence to take any medicines, research about them due to lots of side effects. As well I would recommend consulting an accupuncture or alternative medicine specialist too. 2. Consult a good Guru in ISHA organization. For recently I been seeing a lot of Videos about ISHA's founder, regarding this subject matter. But it's hard to trust any guru blindly too. But it's good to know what is what? Without attaching ourselves to the so called Guru, is my two cents. So trust in God and pray to him for strength and guidance. Don't get too disturbed emotionally, if you are uninterested and it happens, try to divert your ideas from this and relax with something else that soothes you. I was surprised to see this post. As I started meditating and have experienced similar things. Sorry to confuse you, but I will definitely pray for you. I feel this is totally related to spirituality. My prayers and best wishes. Stay calm and the solution will come to you. God bless you.
     
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    From your posting, I would say don't let fear take over you. By your meditations and practices, your chakras are all activated. And as a result of this all these experiences. Google or look into you tube videos to know more about the chakras. (Also about Super consciousness). Just to know about it, so you will understand what is going on with you, don't practice if you are not interested. But to gain the knowledge and awareness of what happens when each chakra is activated.

    I apologize for the first posting, I got carried away with everyone's response and posted related to what people had written. I was very much surprised to see your post because I'm experiencing exactly what you have written. Only one difference is I'm into meditation and now have realized this uniqueness in me and am trying to meditate upon voluntarily. But I'm not doing it yet on a regular basis. Except for a few examples of your dreams, I could repeat each and every word that you have said, as my experience too. From more than 25 years, and the different feelings of the chakras, to the vibrations. Except I have not been to any highly energized place to know myself, where I stand. Recently have read about ISHA in Coimbatore and want to visit when I go there to experience or gain more the knowledge of Dyanalinga. You are not alone, don't worry. I will take it as a positive thing. I'm also losing appetite, experiencing all empathy, sometimes food cravings too, etc.

    Somebody had written about a friend only eats, and sleeps and does not interact with anybody, or somebody went deaf, etc. I wouldn't worry about that because it is how the capacity, understanding, and experience of each individual that things happen. I would say here honestly, you are blessed with something that many does not have. My two cents for you to follow is , do not fear, be positive, trust in God and make your favorite God as your Guru.

    I have had various challenges in life, at that point I took my favorite God Hanuman as my Guru, since I was not inclined to any other Guru in this world. And whenever I prayed and meditated upon Him asking answers to my queries he always responds, helps, and blesses me. Through intuition, answers in my dreams, etc. Precisely, my friends describe me as a psychic. I have predicted many things out of 10 say 7 was successful. Where there was doubt and fear the result was not successful. I have prayed for various good things to happen in the society and it has happend. I stopped voluntarily though I had this gift, because my energy was draining. So, now I pray for my soul's spiritual evolution and I have experienced all these chakras being activated, and vibrations happening now and then. I hope this post of mine gives you some positive views about your experiences and I will try to find and post the links, which I visited on the net, to know more. (Only after hearing from you, if you are interested). The Golden lotus is the opening of the Sahasra chakra, I think. You are a very special spiritual person in this world. People do tapas for the crown chakra to open up and You are truly blessed. JAI HANUMAN! Take care all the best!
     
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    Wow @poetlatha atlast someone can relate to my experiences. Thankyou for taking your time to respond to this. Good to know about the Sahasrara chakra and the golden lotus. I still can experience the happy feeling I had with this experience. I have to get back to my meditative practices. Not many can understand what is not in their experience. Once again thank you for such a positive feedback. Maybe this will get me keep my focus on my path. I don't know what my blessings are spiritually but I count my blessings and yes I do pray for welfare of others too. Thank you @Poetlatha
     
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    Happy I was able to make you feel better. Take care!
     
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