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Question Ishrat Encounter Fake?

Many of us remember the encounter in Gujarat in 2004 which a college student named Ishrat was killed. It was probably the first time when a girl was killed in an encounter along with alleged pakistani terrorists.

As it turns out, the encounter is being called fake. A report suggests that the 3 men and Ishrat were "kidnapped" by Gujarat police and were taken to Gujarat where they were murdered.

But now Gujarat govt. has refuted the claims and said that the encounters were real and the investigation is fake.

What do you think? Who is right in this case?
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The Gujarat government will challenge the report by metropolitan magistrate S P Tamang in the Ishrat Jahan case declaring that she was killed by the state anti-terrorism squad.
Jay Narayan Vyas, spokesperson for the Gujarat government, said the Tamang report was bad in law as those who were found guilty were not given a chance to present their side before the inquiry.
Mumbai-based Ishrat Jahan, 19, was killed in an encounter along with three other persons -- Javed Ghulam Sheikh alias Pranesh Kumar Pillai, Amjad Ali alias Rajkumar Akbar Ali Rana and Jisan Johar Abdul Gani -- by Detection of Crime Branch officials near Ahmedabad on June 15, 2004.
Tamang's probe report into the killing was submitted in the metropolitan court in Ahmedabad on Monday.
Vyas said, Tamang report was prepared in haste and the state government does not recognize it. Those killed in the 2004 encounter were terrorists, he said.
In his 243-page handwritten report, metropolitan magistrate S P Tamang has named ‘encounter specialist’ D G Vanzara, among others, accused in the “cold-blooded murder” of the teenaged girl and three others.
Vanzara and several other policemen are already in jail in connection with the killing of Sohrabuddin Sheikh, which the government confessed before the Supreme Court was a case of fake encounter.
The Tamang probe report comes even as a special three-member team of top police officers of the state appointed by the Gujarat High Court for a fresh probe into the Ishrat Jahan encounter is seized of the matter.
Claiming that Ishrat and the three others were killed by the police officers for their personal interest – to get promotions and appreciation from the Chief Minister – Mr Tamang appended a list of top police officers, running to about two pages, whom he held responsible for the fake encounter.
Besides Vanzara and his then deputy in the Crime Branch, N K Amin, who along with Mr Vanzara was arrested in the Sohrabuddin case, the list includes the then Ahmedabad police commissioner K R Kaushik, the then chief of Crime Branch P P Pandey and another alleged encounter specialist Tarun Barot.
Tamang’s report said the Crime Branch police “kidnapped” Ishrat and the others from Mumbai on June 12 and brought them to Ahmedabad. The four were killed on June 14 night in police custody, but the police claimed that an “encounter’ took place the next morning on the ouirts of Ahmedabad. That rigor mortis set in between 11 pm and idnight the previous night clearly pointed to the fact that the police pumped bullets in Ishrat’s lifeless body to substantiate the encounter theory.
The report said explosives, rifles and other weapons allegedly found in the car, in which the four victims were “traveling to Ahmedabad from Mumbai”, and some of the weapons found on their person were all “planted” by the police.
Magistrate Tamang said there was no evidence to link Ishrat Jahan and another victim Javed Sheikh, with the Pak-based terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba. Neither was there anything to establish that they had “come” to kill the chief minister of Gujarat.
In Delhi, BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu defended Narendra Modi saying that the chief minister could not be held responsible for the



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These days, it is very hard to determine who's saying the truth and who's lying. There is a possibility that this whole thing may be created by congress to ruin Gujarat Govt's reputation and to get muslim votes. A former ally of UPA, Samajwadi party's Amar Singh has already done something like this in the Batala House encounter where he questioned the credibility of the terrorist encounter, despite the fact that a high rank Police officer was martyred in it.

But Gujarat govt. already has the reputation of doing these kinds and they are already involved in such a case....

So, God knows what the truth is..
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If this encounter is really fake then I think it will be a huge black spot on the police of our country. Such kinds of incidents are pure shameful and should be condemned as much as possible.

Sadly, our govt. is not even sure what if really wants to say. Apparently, the same govt. had verified the reports that the group had links with Lashkar e Taiba, back in 2004. Now the same govt. is saying that the killed people were innocent...

Can this stupid govt. make up its mind?
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Given the reputation of the Gujrat CM, I am not at all surprised about the fake encounter.

Fake encounters are first step towards a police state. Jago re ... jago re
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this is just shameful. I hope the reports are wrong and it was not a fake encounter.... Otherwise, it is a very shameful incident.
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The news channels are carrying this item as "isharat Jahan case" whereas it is not exactly the case around this girl. There is no purpose for this girl to accompany terrorists from Pakistan. No parent will be able to digest truth that their child is misguided and has joined hands with militants. She was not living with her family in Gujarat, but was studying from Mumbra, the Islamic capital around suburbs of Mumbai.
The Congress government has one sole motive of defaming all BJP govts - be it Mangalore Pub incidents or Kandhamal incident or Godhra riots. The Congress has bought out all the major TV news channels. You can very well see the bias in these channels. Can anyone point out one news item from NDTV, TIMES NOW, CNN-IBN where there is an appreciation of BJP individiual or a policy or governance in the last 5 months ? All these channels are champions for the Congress Supreme Leaders aim of ruling India. They always demonise the BJP and it's government. The news channels never captured details of the actual Godhra train burning incident, but only told one sided stories of the Post Godhra. In the same Post Godhra incidents, nearly 200 people died in the shooting by Police. more than 400 Hindus died, but no report of a Hindu's death was reported in the news channels. They never investigated the true cause of Kandhamal where conversion of tribals to Christianity by missionaries was the root cause and Swami Laxmananda's murder was another main incident. They covered only violence against Christians.
Tamang's report is prepared keeping eyes on the forthcoming Maharashtra elections to demonise the BJP and the courts will tell the truth later. The media is not Supreme Court and do not beleive their news lies.
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Center is accepting one hand and on the other hand its denying most probably its meddling on two boats ....which finally will sunk central government

Gujarat government is not clean enough , so that it can be believed ...
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The Congress party does its business of pitting Hindus against Muslims and everytime accuse the Hindu side as Communal. All the english news channels are mouthpieces of Congress and their main function is writing anti-BJP. Yes, Narendra Modi was CM of Gujarat during the Post Godhra Riots. This is the only riot incident in which more than 200 people died due to police firing which includes majority of Hindus. Burning of more than 55 Karsevaks live in a train compartment is the root cause of the incident and it is expected that the victim side sit silently and pray for peace. Modi did bring the fiery situation under control.
The entire issue of Isharat Jahan was forgotten by the Congress party and its media mouthpieces immediately after the Maharashtra elections. This shows the motive of the Congress party. BIASED, ONE-SIDED MEDIA is the curse of the nation today.
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