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    Iyer women of Kerala , then and now
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    Women play a very important role in the safeguarding of culture of any community. It is they who really teach the next generation about the customs, history, religion and culture to the upcoming generations of boys and girls. A peep as to how they were in earlier generations and how they are treated now is what is attempted here. Please remember that I am in my sixties and I had gathered lot of information from my elders belonging to my fatherís and grand fatherís generation. I am confining my self to the iyer women of Kerala.

    Grand motherís generation.

    Most of the men and women at that time lived in Agraharamís and Otha Madams across Kerala. Most of men earned their livelihood by money lending, cooking, and music and to a small extent by learning Vedas .Some were in business like tobacco, cotton yarn, rice and so on.

    The women of that time not only did not earn money but according to the Mithakshara Nyaya which they followed were not supposed to own any immovable assets. Education was almost unknown to them except in a few rich families. They got married before they attained menarche. If the parents were not able to arrange the marriage of their daughters by that time, the whole society of iyers looked down upon them .Because of this most of the poor families gave their darling daughters in marriage to very old widower as second or third wife. There were also instances of selling of these children to Old Brahmins of Andhra. The sale was arranged in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Madras</st1:City></st1:place> town. After marriage even a small girl of seven or eight was supposed to wear the 18 yards sari in the traditional way. They were sent to their husbandís home only after they came to an age and the nuptials were celebrated after that. There was large number of deaths of men and women at that time due to scourges like Small Pox, Malaria, and Plague. There were several cases where the girl after marriage became a widow even before she came to an age. Her head was then shaved off and she was forced to live in her family, a life of a widow. It is not an exaggeration to say that most of the Iyer houses had a widow living with them. Because the joint family system that prevailed, these innocent girl children were mostly ill treated by their mother in laws. Any rebel girl was sent back to their parents house and lived alone. They were called Vazhavetti. First pregnancy was a great risk. At least one in 6 of the girls died during their first delivery. The husband happily married another girl as soon as possible.
    Most of the men partook in temple feasts or took free meals in Ootu purais. The unmarried girls and boys also were allowed in these free food programs. These children were instructed by their mothers to bring home Papadams, Fruits sweets etc which were served to them. They lead a very frugal life. Good coffee was reserved only to the man of the house. He second decoction was used for preparation of coffee to the wives and third one for the children. Apart from this was the fact that a good number of men entered in to Sambandam (marriage contract) with Nair or Ambalavasi women. .Wife beating was a very major hobby of most of the men. The wife had not only to bear all this but also forced to look after all the heavy work of the house like drawing water from deep wells, wet grinding, looking after cows, cleaning the house as well as courtyard, looking after a hoard of children etc. May be due to their very frugal food habits they outlived their men most of the times. Most of them like their men lost all their teeth before they were 60 and became hunchbacked if they live up to the age of seventy.
    Looking back, this life appears to be very inhuman but they really enjoyed it. They used to tell stories to their kids sing folk songs sometimes bawdy and also took the leadership in arranging several annual festivals. The family customs were known to them and they implemented these with iron hands. Once they became old (whether they were Sumangalis or widows) the men respected them. To my knowledge , there were no women achievers in any field during that time.
    It is painful for me to recollect that the word used to chastise a man, woman, boy or girl ( by most of the people)was Mundai (widow) (Kammannati in Tamil Nadu).


    Motherís generation
    Things did not improve much but most of the men folk started doing jobs or running businesses(Mainly hotels) . This meant that their family fortunes were better. They had better dresses and could buy some ornaments. At least some of them started wearing the normal saris and the Madisar was reserved for special occasions. Due to modern English medicines death during delivery became rare. .Most of the men lived beyond 50 and few of them started celebrating Sashti Abdha Poorthi. They were able to educate their children and once they started earning, they started looking after their mother well. Cracks began to appear here and there in the joint family system. Religion was very important. Love marriages were not known. Divorces and widow remarriages were unknown. When the British government brought the Sarada Act in the thirties to ban childhood marriages, An Athi Rudram was conducted in Palakkad .
    The population of widows in the agraharam came down. Instead of every house having a widow , it was a few widows per street. Wife beating was there but not very common. Mother in laws were uncrowned queens of the family.I do not know again any women achievers among Kerala Iyer women. In Tamil Nadu many iyer women became great musicians and very few great dancers. Few of them in Tamil Nadu took up to education,

    My generation
    It is hard to believe that the entire society changed with tremendous rapidity. Child marriages never took place.More than 99 % of kerala iyer women wore only saris .Madisar was worn only during religious occasions. In towns like Mumbai, they started wearing even Chudidhars or skirts, once in a while. Girls started getting married after they crossed twenty and the boys when they were nearing thirty. Very large number of iyer boys got into white collar jobs and joint family system ceased to exist. But clannishness was very much there and members of the same mega family felt that they were one. Love marriages were taking place but mostly within Iyers. Widow remarriages and divorces started to happen. Wife beating among iyers was a thing of past. The Hindu Code law gave them equal right to hold property. Many of the women started taking up jobs to increase the income of the family. They were encouraged in this endeavor by their husbands .Men and women were healthy and normally lived up to around seventy years of age. Hunchbacked men and women or old people with walking sticks became a rare sight. People without teeth , became a very rare commodity. But in spite of all this the women of my generation did not leave their tradition. There were lot of achievers especially in the fine arts. The name that comes immediately to my mind is that of the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bombay</st1:place></st1:City> sisters.Usha Uthup was a kerala Iyer who fought against tradition and reached great heights. There were many lady doctors in almost all Kerala towns who succeeded.

    My next generation.

    They have changed a lot. Most of them belong to the upper middle class and in most cases women were employed. Love marriages especially outside the caste have became not so rare. Widows get mostly married. Divorces are taking place with great rapidity. Most of the women became career women. There are lot of kerala Iyer women achievers. They are no different from their men, in intelligence, work capacity and aspirations .The latest in this is Miss Vidhya Balan of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bombay</st1:place></st1:City> who is now a greatly acclaimed heroine of Hindi films and Miss Priya Mani who has joined the Tamil film industry recently. Joint family system has broken down. The life of old men and women has become miserable. The modern day youngster does not want to be saddled up with responsibility of looking after these oldies. She either employs Ayahs to look after her children or sends them to day care centre. But in spite of all this, I find that still they are the guardians of our families and tradition. When I move with them, I am very proud of belonging to the previous generation of these excellent youngsters.


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    hi ramachandersir,

    Good observation from you. welcome on board...your topics are different and even your narrative style is different...great going.





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    welcome mr ramachandran,
    ihave read many an article written by you through kerala pattars.com and am happy i dont have to bother bringing anything as the great man himself is here, very nice write up as usual, happy to note the iyer's behaviour which has never changed over the decades...good read regards sunkan

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    Thanks for the viws expressed. I want to be an active member here too. Ramachander


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    Sir,
    Tell me why does this community degenerate to this extent. In any part of India there has been always a 'Dark Age'. I consider brahmins of kerala or Maharashtra are a bundle of paradox. On one side there is/was total degeneration. Meanwhile there are doyens capable of high intellectual capabilities creating revolution in all areas including social arena.
    In my limited knowlwodge I have heard of one Bhattatiripad from the Malayali brahmin community , EMS a rationlistic, Krishna iyer among the iyers, Gopal Rao Joshi from Maharashtra(rememberDr.Anandibai Gopal, the first lady doctor to go abroad and study for her medicine)Agarkar many many. But the community at large lack conviction or courage of conviction. I very much appreciate the intelligence. Please do tell does any iyer has the guts to stand up and say NO to any nonsense. He would prefer to admit it ony on total privacy.
    Sir Iam very sorry to say that individuality is just not wearing salwar in place of Madisar podavai. Very recently I happened to read a thread on"how lamps should be lit, no.of wicks to be used. I have nothing against the person but I don't consider that as an issue which needs a forum to discuss. (This is only my opinion. You are free to ignore this statemet of mine. No hurts please) This is only an example which is fresh in my mind. Can we stop any iyer girl from saying NO to "Pandam". How much money do we spend on pattu sarees specially the wedding sarees .In fact iam not surprised if we get queries on how to preserve kalyana pattuu sarees which would never see the light of the day after Muhurtham. A saree to respect the occasion is fine. I like to call that as enlightment or a change. Hypocrisy of iyer women remains same to date.
    I know many iyer families of those days where women had the upper hand in running the family. May be they were not a literate group but educated in their own way . Awaiting comments. kanaka

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    Dear Friend,
    Kerala iyers are a very progressive community in several respects but they are very religious. For example dowry is a thing of past in this small community.As long as religious beliefs do not hurt another human being, I do not find anything wrong in believing them and following them. Almost 95% of the fairer sex of this poor community are graduates. I am sure that love marriages and divorces are as common in this small community as in any progressive community.Most of them also take up to modern dress without any objection from their parents. Fascination for wealth in the form of saris and jewels is not an exclusive trait of any community and is a world over phenomenon among the fairer sex., Ramachander


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    Dear Sir, I have no reason to hurt you or anyone for that matter. My grievance against this community is its vacilating atttitude. To be religious is fine. Iam also equally religious minded. Sometimes rationality must pave way for sentiments.

    The form of Dowry taking and giving has taken a different ankle. But as you say there are families only asking for reasonably educated partners. But very rare.
    Sir with due respects to you ,we are a selfish community. Self centered. My concern is only to the community I belong. By definition (and if we claim to be this community to be very learned, pious) it cannot be the way it goes. If we are like others then I have nothing to say. Then let us stop saying "Brahmanan
    s and Brahminism. SORRY and my utmost regards to you. Don't take it as personal . kanaka


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    Dear Friend,
    I agree with you that bad and good people are there.But this is not restricted to any community.Being deeply engaged in matriimonial affairs as a part time astrologer and being a former scientist, I have a feeling that bad people are less than good people in our community.Ofcourse what you say makes sense and you are definitely not hurting me. I have started this thread only with a view to know what others like you think.Ramachander


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    it is my experience also, i second kanaka, as India is narrowing down the people of that region also narrow in mind a lot, they may be educated and highly proud and so on great standing and all that, but basically they never accept a new woman from any other community that is the iyers of other community and always sarcasm that they know better making life miserable for the woman who marry into their community, very bad taste left behind..sunkan

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    Dear Sunkan
    I got a reply from a person that it is a small community progressing asking no more dowry etc. Good. They have subtle ways of finding out the economic status. On many occasions I know people saying" As long as my daughter will have peace of mind I don't mind som financial burden.
    Do the iyer community allow women to do any karma meant for iyers? Let us be honest. No. Don't they consider thread ceremony their monoply? YES.
    A person becomes brahmin by action and not by birth alone.
    An uneducated brahmin lady divorced by her husband was in Gulf for some years as a cook. All the iyer relatives accepted all the gifts brought by her with open hands. But during one Sumangali prarthana she was denied all those privileges usually given to iyer ladies and she cried bitterly. I asked her to be truthful . She said" In gulf I used to cook in Arabhi families non veg on Fridays to earn a little extra money. (She was given holiday by her Indian master on Fridays). This is not a story but a fact . ( She happens to be one of the students of my mother. She was never good in studies nor capable of being running the family like any other smart girl.). We are intelligent but can never come out of our shell Please comment. The incident still haunts me whenever I see our ladies hypocricy. kanaka


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