LO not sleeping... :(

Tikka thanks for the info.

I do alot of reading and don't want to debate either on what is good for others and what is good my child. I think its better I leave at this.

Suman

Vayvidang is boiled in water like we boil ajwain in water. It is a seed and taken by most Maharashtrians. Actually my mother when my brother was small was deeply troubled with all this colic and she tried this and it worked thanks it worked else she would be out of work at home. Now that I am a mother and working full time too, I have decided to listen to my mother as I am not experienced in tackling colic and moreover don't have the patience to manage it all alone. You can still cross check at the ayurvedic stores and check if what I am mentioning is genuine.

Just a small clarification. I have not advised any water to be given to the child. In case one is exclusively on BF then the mother can have the water and in case of formula feed the water can be used.

While one cannot alone blame ayurveda for child deaths, it is totally the mother's negligence. I have also heard of stories of mother who have slept while feeding their babies and the milk has lead to choking and caused death. This is another side of the story though.

Also all the medicine the paed would get is not all that pleasant to have. I gave it to my DD last week and she has been puking it all out. If the medicine does not go in who is to suffer. Even medicines which have an excellent taste does not seem to go well with my DD. In general my DD hates medicines. Allopathy is the strongest of all medicines, it is supposed to be taken last, except for severe illness. Though the relief is quick one is yet to find out what damage it can cause. Homoepathy does not agree with me. I in all hate medicines myself, I know how my DD would feel. Only pills my DD enjoys is the Dentonic pills.

For diarrohea it is pure hygiene and food. I have noticed that toor dal which I gave my DD didn't agree with her and turned gassy. Ever since I have stopped she is doing fine. Also doc mentioned that Dettol should not be used for clothes as it is antiseptic and everytime my DD keeps on putting some or the other clothes in her mouth. Now we are on a total cleanliness spree at home.

Hope this clarifies the situation I am in !

New mommies,
I have following this thread and thought of sharing my views.Ds was low-birth weight (2kg at birth) baby and my paed and gynac advised not to give anything other than BM for the first 5-6 months.He used to poo almost 12 times a day, forceful ones.Whenever i call my paed his only answer will be,if you give only BM do not worry about stools.some kids (only BM fed) dont poo for a week others do more than 10.if weight gain and activity of baby is normal do not worry.
DS had had colic,would cry from 5- 8 pm daily .its tough to hear ,but taking turns will relieve th etension of moms.he was allergic to some foods that i ate.My sincere advice, do not keep asking doctors what to do again and again.
i strongely recommend indian style cradle,infant swing is also a good option.Make sure that babies do not gulp too much air while feeding,and do not forget to burp.
This phase too shall pass..All the best mommies.

Hi all .....
Last night was bad, really bad. DD did not sleep a wink and what was worse, she kept on crying, crying was very loud and painful. She would stop onlyy when I fed her. She would have been ok, if I kept feeding her all thro' the night also !! In most cases, she fell asleep soon, but refused to sleep for over 5-10 min. She would grunt, twist and then ask for feed again !!

Poonam - Good to know that kid is keeping fine. Mine also passes stools with force sometimes. Yes, we need a little patience. Lets wait and watch.

PonLatha - Thank you very much for the suggestions. Will try some and get back. And I hope they work !!

Tikka, Lee - Thanks for the Info. I am not worried about the loose stools or the freq of those. I am only worried as she keeps crying for 2 days.
Tikka - Spoke to my paed y'day and she said that if it continues, she will get the stool examined and check for other infections.

Some specific questions -

1. Why does she want feed always. Is it that she is really hungry or is it for comfort. If it is colic/ something else, then how does feeding subside her pain (she is absolutely silent and calm during feeding).

2. I cannot keep feeding 24X7, right?

3. No sleep positions seem to work. She just wakes up and cries and does not stop until feeding. I will however try out what PonLatha suggested.

4. After a lot of unsuccessful effort, I slept beside her and BFd. After which both of us slept for 2 hrs. I am veyr very concerned abt co-sleeping and BFg as I am scared that I will sleep off.

LO is asleep right now (how tired she must be). Planning to wait till 2-3pm and take a call on visiting the Paed.

Need ur wishes ..........

Ramya, just wanted to help you by telling that I went through all this in the first month... She wanted me to feed the whole night right from day one... And it continued for almost 40 days... Now it is better...I even thought I didnt have enuf milk and ended up giving her formula once.. but it didnt stop her fussing....
I suspect all these are quite normal...

I was like feeding her everytime.. and even questioned everyone in the house as whether I am a milk vending machine and was so frustrated... But those phases passed...

Vidyaa

Dear suman,

Some specific questions -

1. Why does she want feed always. Is it that she is really hungry or is it for comfort. If it is colic/ something else, then how does feeding subside her pain (she is absolutely silent and calm during feeding).
Its absolutely for comfort :)) If you are damn sure that LO is not waking up due to sudden dog bark, mosquito, then its for comfort... I think, once they are NOT into the usual feed-sleep-play routine, they become tired that they dono to get into the deep sleep mode. Sometimes we elders might experience that. So i feed DS fully, then burp for 20-25mins. Ensure that DS is not hungry and properly burped.
Then warm cloth massage, dab powder, fresh him, dressing up. Then i sit and let him suck(the same side breast in which i fed him last, coz there wont be too much flow, when he sucks, only lil milk goes in... since we cant burp after we sleep-feed them, i do this way), with my back n hands cushioned. After 20mins, when DS dozes off, when he is wide-mouthed, not sucking, take off the breast. Otherwise i let him suck. But other than this, i dont move a bit. Just sit tight for abt 1-2hrs. If my DS sleeps tight, without wrigling, moving or opening his eyes continuously for 30-40mins, then i shift him to bed or cradle. But if after 15mins of sleep, if he moves, then again sit tight, let him suck n start ur countdown. This way atleast they dont get tired more and sleep for sometime. And we too dont sleep over. If all these doesnt work,then co-sleep :)))

2. I cannot keep feeding 24X7, right?
Yes, you cant.

3. No sleep positions seem to work. She just wakes up and cries and does not stop until feeding. I will however try out what PonLatha suggested.
Dont give up, sometimes something wierd might work for them. yesterday, DS cried non-stop, i was just loosing hope, so i let him cry, played kabhi kabhi aditi song (from jaane tu...) just to keep my spirits up, but to my surprise my LO stopped crying suddenly, listened to it, then dozed off... I didnt imagine :)) So keep experimenting!!!

4. After a lot of unsuccessful effort, I slept beside her and BFd. After which both of us slept for 2 hrs. I am veyr very concerned abt co-sleeping and BFg as I am scared that I will sleep off.
When you sit and sleep-feed or when u lie down, have your headphones in one of ur ears, hook on to FM or your fav music. This way we wont sleep off, we wud get some timeout from the exhausting baby routines... :)) I have started this from last week and i feel great this way... heheheheeeeeeeeeeee

LO is asleep right now (how tired she must be). Planning to wait till 2-3pm and take a call on visiting the Paed.

Need ur wishes ..........
Lotsaaa hugs to you dear, every phase would pass by...

Friends,

Really singing music will make them keep quiet or to sleep atleast to some extent; my mom, though she forgot some songs she learnt, still would sing katrinele varum geetham by M.S.immediately, both my son & daughter would kept quiet and started watching her..Dont change the song, just stick with a few songs...If others sings, she would scream, they need the same voice, same persons, mischievous ones...

Also, have to mention whenever my daughter got colic, she could not drink or do anything, would stretch her leg, bend her body. Though she wanted to BF, could not..the pain would be that bad..if yr kid is not stretching, might not be colic/stomach pain. Only for the tummy pain, they will stretch and if you gently press he tummy, they cant tolerate even for a sec., my opinion...

Rgds.

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Some specific questions -

1. Why does she want feed always. Is it that she is really hungry or is it for comfort. If it is colic/ something else, then how does feeding subside her pain (she is absolutely silent and calm during feeding).[/quota]
Ramya she is becoming aware of a world outside of the womb, some children process the information well. Some need the mommy to interpret the world to her. The rooting and suckling reflex for children is very strong, that is why a lot of children self soothe with the thumb when they are older. Looks like your daughter does need a lot of touching and carrying and feeding.

2. I cannot keep feeding 24X7, right?

Yes, you can. It is tough, draining on you. But your baby will find warmth and comfort from you. DS pretty much fed every 1 hr 30 min in newborn days. He was sleepy and would latch on and sleep. Eventually, your daughter will also sleep more soundly and on her own, till then she needs your help. I was just telling Vidya how I seem to have forgotten how INTENSE those first few weeks were instead talking as if I had an easy time and therefore you should too. No, I am terribly wrong if I have implied it is all easy. But you will figure out how to once you give into your baby's needs.

3. No sleep positions seem to work. She just wakes up and cries and does not stop until feeding. I will however try out what PonLatha suggested.

Some children need to be rocked to sleep. Some children like being in mommy's arm and sleep others will take substitutes like cradles, rockers, cloth cradles and there is this spring like cradle with mosquito net that a some of the moms I know say works.

4. After a lot of unsuccessful effort, I slept beside her and BFd. After which both of us slept for 2 hrs. I am veyr very concerned abt co-sleeping and BFg as I am scared that I will sleep off.

You need to observe some basic safety measures and you are good. If you are overtired, if you are on medications, it may not be a good idea to co-sleep at that point. Otherwise, it is the safest thing to do as co-sleeping reduces risk of other issues like sudden infant death syndrome. That is believed to be the reason why developing counties do not have high incidence of SIDS.
Hugs to all mommies. Hang in there.

Hey Vidya, Tikka, Ponlatha, Ami - Thanks for the response.

Things are the same today. She was asleep in the morning, but from about 1pm started fussying and crying. But much to my surprise 5-6 relatives (ILs side) visited us today and she was quite in their hands for almost 1.30-2.00 hours and she did not even want to feed !!

The minute they left and I was alone, it started all over again. She somehow seems to know me :))

As you all say, let me give in to her and wait. As she is tired, I also have a feeling that she does not feed well and doses off, which may be a reason that she wants to feed frequently.

Whatever ladies - I am just going to wait. God give me strength and patience. I have started reading books when I BF. Finished 3 alrready !!

ramya, all i can say is u are not alone... zoey is 1 month now and i hardly see any improvements in her sleep patterns... seems like what krithika mentioned, high needs aby, prolly is my baby too.

certain things yesterday that my paed said made me feel good
i asked him bub not sleeping almost all day, he said full term babies that are gaining good weight know how much sleep they need, so forcing them to sleep isnt going to help...so now i dont really even wait for her to sleep, if she is up i use her rocker, we both lissen to songs watch tv, play take her in the balcony... somehow pass our time.
my back goes for a toss nso my shoulders but she hates to be in a sling wat to do?

zoey has been sleeping around 10-12 hours total max n sometimes not even 10, and thats quite less than wat babies do of her age but her Paed said as long as she is gaining wt and is healthy, its okie since full term babies know how much rest they want lol... but what about giving rest to mommie????

i am so fed up and tired of her sleeplessness that now i no more even wish and hope she falls asleep... i m on my toes watever time of the day night, at her service... hope she grows out of sleeplessness soon :(

Thanks Poonam. Even I have stopped 'hoping' that she would sleep.
Mine also sleeps for less than 10 hrs. But when I see her sleepy, but fussy, I really pity that I am not able to help. Rocking her to sleep will yeild probably 10-15 min of sleep. So, I don't force it much.

Y'day night was equally bad with Lo sleeping for just 2-3 hours. But I had made up my mind to be awake (since DH was not around) and I was happy with an hours sleep for myself !! I read books when I feed her and I am ok with that.

Also I have also given into her requirements of feeding, so let us see how thngs are. She kind of fed for 7-8 times y'day night, some for actual feeding, some for dozing off ..whatever .... I was just watching!!

Let us wait for a time when both of us (We and our LOs) can sleep. Oh, I vaguely remember a time when I thought having a baby meant cudding her and sleeping ... how could I even imagine that