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Old 24th October 2007, 06:57 AM
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A nephew of a close friend of mine plays cricket for one of the local leagues. He has a peculiar habit. Whenever someone drops a catch offered by him or misses running him out by a cat’s whisker, he would show a ‘V’ sign to the spectators. One day I cornered him and sought clarification for this strange habit of his. I asked him why he showed a V sign as if it was his personal triumph. I pointed out to him that he could not claim credit for continuing to stay at the crease due to someone else’s fault. I was a bit harsh on him when I chided him that he could not consider it as his achievement that someone dropped his catch.

I should say that for a youth of his age he was remarkably cool answering me. He considered my remark as indicative of the generation gap. He was appalled that I was still living in the days of Winston Churchill, the originator of the V sign. He pointed out that the V sign, like so many other things of the last century, has undergone a sea change. V sign, he pointed out, was no more a sign of victory but of survival. He went on to explain that to be able to survive was a sort of victory by itself. Have you seen these political criminals when they get a short respite by means of a stay of the proceedings or grant of bail, he asked me and pointed out how they came out of the court room with their ebullient followers showing the V sign. It was only to indicate that they had survived the day and not that they had been exonerated. If you got that impression, they were not to blame for it, he concluded.

I should say he set me thinking. Churchill’s V sign had a specific purpose of reassuring his countrymen that all was well and that they were on the road to the ultimate victory. V for Victory was how his sign was interpreted. Behind that V sign, there was a saga of bitter fighting for supremacy and of great personal sacrifices. It was a sign of personal triumph and tenacity of purpose. History points out that the V sign made its advent during the 100 Years War but it was Churchill who made effective use of it.

My young friend pointed out that all these battles and sacrifices for supremacy had any meaning only if you survived to enjoy the fruits thereof. If you are dead, you can not show any sign let alone V sign. If you reach a stage, he reasons, when staying alive itself is a big achievement, V can no more be restricted to Victory alone but survival itself. Of course, he admits, S for survival would be more appropriate but showing an S sign is lot more complicated due to anatomical restrictions on finger movements. V sign has, therefore, come to stay as representative of a wide range of emotions.

Won’t it be dashed confusing if both winners and losers start showing the V sign, I asked him. Turning a bit philosophical, he replied that both were only two sides of the same coin.
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Old 24th October 2007, 07:26 AM
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Cheeniya Sir,
Very good explanation for 'V' sign. It has gone through several stages and deviated from its original meaning, to suit the present situation.
Your friend's nephew thinks on the same track as yours!
Here after 'V' is for survival, ok, accepted.

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Dear Sri,

Great Signs...

V for victory,
V for Veda,
V for vedanthi,
V for vetti..... Whenever I tell the first and second, my brother & sisters will imediately reply the last... So, I dont know what I am... So I myself has chosen the third one for me... Since nobody want to give me the credit, i took myself....

Yes... In todays world whether it is cricket or life.... Survival itself is a great achievement... Leave alone acomplishments... If you achieve, then you ar the greatest...

I dont know Churchil... but I know how tough the survival is...

Thanks for allowing me to blabber... .
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Sri,

Wow, the minds of the young...looks like the younger generations are real survivors...

The symbols of victory...the v, the conch, the peacock, the mount kailash.

churchill, he gets the full credit for the use...

In today's worlds with a different set of battles... ... the survival of the fittest...he is right in saying that he is a winner....

I would quote an example which i feel is apt...the peacock is shown as a symbol of victory..not because of its beauty/its dancing skills.....but because the feathers grow back with the same beauty and glow as the ones that have fallen.....

So a BIG V for all survivors......
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Hello Cheeniya sir,

V is for Victory whether temporary or otherwise.

By the way, being so "dashed " is Lord Emsworth's privilege if I am not wrong. Or is it Bertie Wooster's? Oh! How I d miss reading PGW. I don't mind you borrowing the usage but it made me feel nostalgic.

Thank you sir and Regards,

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Shanthi, your explanation for 'peacock as a symbol of victory' is very apt.
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Cheeniya Sir,
Very good explanation for 'V' sign. It has gone through several stages and deviated from its original meaning, to suit the present situation.
Your friend's nephew thinks on the same track as yours!
Here after 'V' is for survival, ok, accepted.

sriniketan
Dear Sri
Before writing this article, I tried to google for the origin and development of V sign and the results, millions of them, were mindboggling! How they use it in Japan, what does it mean if the palm faces you when you show the V sign etc etc! Everyday in TV news, we can see some thug or other flashing the V sign!
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Dear Sri,

Great Signs...

V for victory,
V for Veda,
V for vedanthi,
V for vetti..... Whenever I tell the first and second, my brother & sisters will imediately reply the last... So, I dont know what I am... So I myself has chosen the third one for me... Since nobody want to give me the credit, i took myself....

Yes... In todays world whether it is cricket or life.... Survival itself is a great achievement... Leave alone acomplishments... If you achieve, then you ar the greatest...

I dont know Churchil... but I know how tough the survival is...

Thanks for allowing me to blabber... .
Dear Veda
That was not blabber. That was some serious contemplation! You can certainly call yourself a Vedanthi. From the dawn of Time, survival has always been the hallmark of the fittest. Moreso in today's corporate jungle. If you survive, you are certainly entitled to show the V sign!
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Sri,

Wow, the minds of the young...looks like the younger generations are real survivors...

The symbols of victory...the v, the conch, the peacock, the mount kailash.

churchill, he gets the full credit for the use...

In today's worlds with a different set of battles... ... the survival of the fittest...he is right in saying that he is a winner....

I would quote an example which i feel is apt...the peacock is shown as a symbol of victory..not because of its beauty/its dancing skills.....but because the feathers grow back with the same beauty and glow as the ones that have fallen.....

So a BIG V for all survivors......
Dear Shanthi
Full credit to you for the peacock example! Peacock is the biggest survivor in the sense that the beauty of its feathers remains intact throughout its life! Have you ever seen a bald peacock?
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Hello Cheeniya sir,

V is for Victory whether temporary or otherwise.

By the way, being so "dashed " is Lord Emsworth's privilege if I am not wrong. Or is it Bertie Wooster's? Oh! How I d miss reading PGW. I don't mind you borrowing the usage but it made me feel nostalgic.

Thank you sir and Regards,

Abha.
Dear Abha
Both the Lord and his nephew get dashed confused often but the nephew has a definite edge over his uncle in using 'dashed'
This life wouldn't have been worth living if PGW had not taken pen in hand!
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