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ultimately here we are discussing abt a clan yes it will vanish into something else..didnt we have tamil christians whose origins were brahmins too among other things..so the time and era bring about a lot many changes..sunkan
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| Dear Sundari, The community has become a minority Yes no doubt. But please remeber nothing to beat iyer intelligence. Be it CV Raman.MS swaminathan,Ramanujam,MS Subbulakshmi, Dakshina Murthy Sway, Justice Krisna Iyer to mention a few. You will find them in few numbers but good things in the world are always are in small quantites. That miniscule isenough to keep the world going. In Malayalam there is a saying "Pattaril pottan illa". No fools in this community. kanaka |
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| Dear Sundari, If Iyer girls are marrying boys from other communities,so are Iyer boys marriying girls from outside their community! Hence the balancing act will be done! And I feel Let us first become human beings and look at each other with equal respect. Let there be one culture-"The culture of Love, humanity and concern of fellow human beings. If that purpose can be achieved through inter-caste marriages, then it is worth it. Regards, Malathi
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| Dear Dundari Ma'am, Completely agree with you. For people like me who are still Pattars, I would like my kids to be married to Pattars. However, in the current situation, when my kids are at a marriageble age, firstly, i might not find a Pattar / Pure Iyer as a bride or groom for my son and daughter. Secondly, not confident if my kids would leave the choice to me to find their life partners as i did. (my kids are just 11 and 8 currently) PS: What i mean by a Pure iyer is where both the parents are Iyers. anu |
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| On a humorous note, I cannot help observing that this inter-caste marriage is not so common among Iyengars!! My Iyengar-friend had a marathon argument session to convince her parents to marry a very well accomplished Iyer-boy. I think we Iyers should learn something from the Iyengar-pride... |
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| Sunkan madame... I am appalled.. Actually I didnt expect this post from you :) --------- Anyhoo, Sorry if this post is going to be bit rude or harsh.. but I need to get the point across :) we are in the 21st century and we still talk about caste system? Aren't we all educated? Follow your traditions and culture.. but don't get absorbed to it.. End of the day, we all are HUMANS and lets try to think about that and respect others in the same way. So what if there is inter-marriage? How many cases we see, where arranged marriage fail? Does caste comes and helps them then? I am not saying love marriage is a 100% success.. but they are adults.. give them the chance to choose with whom they want to lead their life? Don't restrict them because of the man-made caste. Atleast let this generation be broadminded and teach good values to the next generation.. It is one life we have and lets not spoil ours and as well others by sticking to caste system. Think reality... is our caste helping us when we are in emergency? is it giving us food? you came to this world as a human and you leave as a human.. why in between branding yourself to some community? Finally, Please don't confine that all the vedas are property of iyers.. Thats the complete stupidity. We had the opportunity to learn them when others had to do the hard work for 1000s of years. All our ancestors did was learn vedas.. and then eventually moved to other stuff.. but never did the actual physical work.. So the foundation was so good, that everyone was literate in our community. But that is not the cause in others.. for some, this generation is the first going out of farming or whatever they are doing into education. And who's fault is it? The caste system that ripped of the basic things that every human being should have got - Education So, kanaka please don't brand that we are the intelligent people on the earth. If other communities was given an opportunity like us 100s and 1000s of years, yes, they would be shining too. Your post actually belittles other communities and I think that;s wrong.
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Well said Malathi.. there should be more people like you, so that the world is filled with love and humanity.. rather than race and war .. as its now... Wherever there are issues in the world.. obviously its something to do with this damn religion/caste and what not
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| hi nandhu and malathi, i feel exactly the same way as you do.....i got so worked up i couldnt express all that i had in mind.....thank you! |
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| kaluputti dear, this is not a discussion by me, this has been raised by the kerala pattars community they are the people who feel that their culture and habits and style of living all are going to vanish, yes human revolution has to be accepted here i do agree with it, u will notice i have agreed all the way and i am not a kerala pattar in the first place, so it is a community which feels from kerala, pl do not mistake this is not my personal view but the view of that community of men who feel it will be lost soon in fact they had condemned the men for demanding too many things and not marrying the pattar girls of kerala community and should be aware about how to help each other as a community starting with donation for marriage and other kriyas even death ceremony is conducted by donation by this community, aged people's medical facility and so on, i have also contributed here, they feel from the not marrying stage of their boys and girls to a community lost in the future..sunkan
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